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Passing the Baton: ASD1's Robbie Binnicker and Dr. Seth Young

The Boone Show - Robbie Binnicker and Dr. Seth Young Season 4 Episode 1

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Leadership is changing in Anderson School District 1. We said goodbye to Robbie Binnicker and rolled out the welcome mat for Dr. Seth Young, the new superintendent taking the reins this summer. Robbie's legacy, marked by resilience through pandemic hurdles and the fruition of a major school expansion, is celebrated with the same vigor as the anticipation for Dr. Young's vision. Through laughter and earnest reflection, Robbie shares the next chapter of his life—retirement by Charleston's serene beaches and his son's high school graduation—while Dr. Young recounts his ascension from math teacher to superintendent, underscoring the district's nurturing environment for professional growth.

We reconnected with Zach to dissect the latest from WrestleMania, ponder over Clemson basketball, and debate the hottest topics from the baseball diamond, including the MLB's style-savvy City Connect jerseys. 

Finally, we cap it off with a foray into personal tastes and preferences, diving into a series of 'this or that' challenges that peel back the layers of our guests’ personalities. Which will it be—podcasts or playlists, swimming pool or beach? Their choices are more than mere preferences; they’re a window into the culture and character of the people who shape our schools and our communities. From Robbie's teased shrimp and grits recipe to Dr. Young's tech leanings, each answer reveals the human side of our education leaders and closes the episode on a note as light-hearted as it is enlightening.

Speaker 1:

Hello everybody, welcome to the Boone Show on my Pulse Radio. Glad to be with you on a Tuesday afternoon. We've got heavyweights heavyweight in the studio today major heavyweights in the studio as we start our year-end roundup of guests and see how all the schools have been doing. We start off with a very special show.

Speaker 2:

Strong.

Speaker 1:

Passing the torch today. No fire in the studio, though we can't or are not allowed to do that. But we've got the current superintendent of District 1, robbie Binnicker, good friend of the show, glad to have you back.

Speaker 3:

Glad to be here. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:

And then we have the incoming guy who has been on the show before but, as I was mentioning earlier, we've lost track of him for a couple of years because he's been doing other things in the district. But Dr Seth Young is here and thank you for coming.

Speaker 4:

Well, thank you for having me Excited to be here. Good to be back in the seat.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and hopefully you'll be there to be grilled for years to come.

Speaker 4:

I hope so too. I always enjoy being on the show. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1:

Sorry for sounding all nasally. Getting over the old allergies this year they got me. Some years they do. Some years they don't. This year they got me good.

Speaker 2:

And it's all covered like everything's yellow outside yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 1:

You can't roll your windows down and enjoy the temperature because of all the dang pollen. But things are getting better. I feel a lot better than I sound, uh, so let's roll on with the show here. Uh, mr biniker yes, sir I've had a connection with you now for years because of your kids, because of your other relatives. I've been in the. I've had two of your kids, yes, and of course niece hannah. I think that's it right.

Speaker 7:

Three I think it's three we've had over the years

Speaker 1:

but that has spread over a number of years here. Uh, enjoyed them all and have followed them all since they graduated. Of course, brayden's graduating this year and he just completed the program here in december. Um, so I've known you for quite some time. It's been great. We almost took a balloon ride together.

Speaker 3:

Well, we actually did get in the balloon, but then got in the balloon, but then they didn't take it up.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

Holly, you were there too. And it was probably good we didn't go up, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It was windy. The wind that day was, but still it was kind of. Who knows if he still would have been the superintendent right now had we taken that balloon. None of us may have been there that day.

Speaker 1:

But it's been great talking to you over the years. You're so easy to talk to and, uh, very forthright and presenting information that we need to guys that aren't as smart like me, and that's why I have holly on the show for all the details about what goes to into being an administration, because I'm just a teacher. But, um, but you're going to retire and go on out into the sunset, so to speak. Why now? Why did you choose now to retire? Does it have something to do with Braden graduating and moving on that way? Was there a number of factors? Why now?

Speaker 3:

Well, there was clearly a number of factors. First of all, I have thoroughly enjoyed my time in Anderson One. There has never been a day that I have woken up and said, boy, I don't want to go to work today. So it's been a true pleasure. I just feel like it's a blessing to be able to work here. I started here as a teacher in 1990 and have been here ever since. So 34 years I've been in Anderson 1. And I think I've done about all I can do here. So it's time to move on and pass the torch to the next guy.

Speaker 1:

All right, porch to the, to the next guy, all right. And uh, you know, when you talk about what you've done here and you've been superintendent for six years, that's right. Okay, since 2018, you have been in charge during a crazy time. I mean, we had the pandemic. We've had just a total explosion in growth in district one, especially in the powdersville area. Um, it has been crazy during those times.

Speaker 1:

Not just you couldn't just kick back and put your put your feet up, like mr young's probably gonna do but, uh, but I mean describe some of that that you've been through, because a lot of challenges you normally wouldn't see pop up and they were everywhere.

Speaker 3:

Sure, well, it definitely has been some challenging time for us, but I will say we have got an incredible school board that has helped lead those efforts, not to mention some really talented district office professionals, along with our school principals and school personnel as well.

Speaker 3:

In 2018-19, which was my first year as superintendent we knew we had a huge issue with space in the district. We knew we were going to have to build buildings. We knew we did not have those funds to be able to build the buildings, so we actually went after a $109 million bond referendum during that time. It was the largest that we had ever done in Anderson 1. And that got approved by the voters over 75%, which we were really very, very, very proud of. Then, of course, the next year, we actually started construction Lots of—we built two new middle schools, added on to a lot of schools, safety and security measures at all of our schools as well, and then the pandemic hit, which really and truly was probably. It was probably the most difficult time that I had as an administrator, and I think a lot of administrators would probably say that, and I think the reason is is that nobody really knew the right answer.

Speaker 1:

Right. There was nothing to learn from previously.

Speaker 3:

There was no nobody had experienced a pandemic like that and there were dire consequences. I mean there were dire consequences of kids coming to school and getting sick, and there were dire consequences. I mean there were dire consequences of kids coming to school and getting sick, and there were dire consequences of kids staying home and not getting that face-to-face interaction with teachers. We felt like we made some really good decisions during that time and we had a great community here at Anderson, one that supported us. Our parents, our medical professionals supported us during that time and we ended up really well. We have since.

Speaker 3:

You know, like every school district kind of saw that COVID slide, as there were a number of students who were virtual for a period of time. Of course, all the students in the state were virtual for a couple of months when the governor shut down schools. We probably had less than most the the following year, but that was something that that we're really proud of at this point, that we feel like we've we've kind of made up all of that, lost ground and now have have moved forward. So it's definitely been some challenging time, but you look back and there were certainly rewarding things that happened during those times as well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was one of the most impressive things when I was just reading up on District 1, where we are right now the fact that you have recovered to the pre-pandemic test scores and such, and graduation rate is as high as ever. I mean, that's a real tip of the cap, right there?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, for sure. I think that you know graduation rate is one of those things we always put out there, because that's incredibly important. Kids have to graduate. They need to graduate from high school and, having this past year being our highest graduation rate ever, over 94% of our kids graduated and, of course, that graduation rate includes every kid. It's a four-year graduation rate, so it includes all the students who are self-contained, students who are not going to graduate. That number includes those as well, as well as students who transfer in without the ability to be able to graduate in four years. So we're very, very proud of that number.

Speaker 1:

And you talk about the growth that's going on. I know there's a lot going on right now again in the Powdersville area and I know Dr Young will pick up on this too, because there'sa big building project coming up but there are things going on now, the stadium other thing, what's going on?

Speaker 3:

absolutely well. We just finished a 12 room addition at Powdersville Middle School. We built that on top of an addition that we had just built in in 2019-2020 and so those 12 rooms obviously will come in very handy as Powdersville Middle School grows. We have Concrete and Powdersville Elementary School. Both of those schools have combined about 1,600 students, so they have very large school populations of kids K-2 at Concrete and 3-5 at Powdersville. So we knew we had to build another elementary school in Powdersville and we did that. It took us about nine months to find the land, to find an appropriate place to build in Powdersville, but we found that land. The construction documents are all done. That is now out to bid the beginning of May. We'll have those numbers in. The hope will be I know Dr Young will be looking at those numbers very, very carefully, but the hope will be is that those numbers will be within budget and we've already started clearing the land and looking forward to building that new elementary school to relieve the overcrowding at Concrete and Powdersville Elementary.

Speaker 1:

Wow, it's growing so fast. What exactly are you doing at the stadium, because I see the expansion there.

Speaker 3:

The stadium was actually built. Of course, when Powdersville was first built it was a two-way school. It only had grades 9 and 10. And since then it's grown exponentially. So it's almost as large as Wren and as big as Palmetto High School now, and the stadium just wasn't designed for that many kids. And of course they've done exceptionally well in their sports programs and there's been many, many events in that stadium where it's literally standing room only, and so we're adding about 580 seats I think it is to the home side and about 400 seats to the visitor side. That'll help increase the capacity so that when we have those large.

Speaker 3:

That's right.

Speaker 2:

You know, and one of the things that Anderson 1 has looked over the years obviously is academics. I mean that has been a huge focus but all of the academics and, after you know, after school curriculum, after school events, sporting events, is also a big part of making that whole student. And I know that you guys have been intentional when you make those athletic decisions and those kind of things and you all have. In general, every school in Anderson 1 has excelled in athletics, not just in football, where most people think you know, but you've excelled in other areas and I think you guys have made intentional decisions on trying to upgrade your athletic facilities, along with your academics.

Speaker 3:

And I would certainly agree with that. I think our board, our district administration, along with our schools, understand the power and the need for those extracurricular activities sports, the fine arts we have a phenomenal fine arts program throughout the district. We just recognized some all-state singers and all-state band members at our last board meeting and we know how important that is in the lives of kids and them becoming productive adults when they leave our schools. So, while academics yes, that is absolutely the focus that their math, science and social studies, that those things are solid, that when they leave us, those other things to help build a well-rounded student is certainly very important to us as well.

Speaker 2:

And y'all have created an atmosphere to embrace, creating that whole student and I think not just your administration staff but your entire faculty, your custodians, your cafeteria workers, you know everybody has to all buy into that and I think you created a culture in your superintendency to create and allow people to make that whole student and I think that's a huge proud moment in my thought in your tenure during the time, what do you think is one of your proudest times or moments or things that you've accomplished over your tenure? Maybe not just as superintendent, because you, you know you came from the classroom, you know I mean all that's got to happen. Where do you see during your time that you can go back and think about now and say you know what? That was a really, really proud moment.

Speaker 3:

I you know there are a couple of things that that stick out. As a principal, I was very proud that we were able to go from a good report card rating to an excellent report card rating and kept that excellent report card rating the entire time that I was a principal. We were named Palmetto's Finest School during that time. Dr Young will probably tell you later on, but the only reason we won that is because he wrote the application which is true.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't the only reason but that was certainly part of the reason for sure, but that was certainly part of the reason for sure. Our graduation rate was in the. We were at about 88% when I started at Wren and got that into the mid to upper 90s when I left. So those are things that I was certainly very, very proud of. I think from an individual student perspective, though none of that compares to that student coming back and saying you, you made a difference. You know, I would not have graduated high school with, without you, and I'm gonna be honest, sometimes I didn't really even recall the moment or the thing that I, that I did, but to that student it certainly meant the world to them during that time.

Speaker 3:

I think my time at the district office really the building program, I think, has been very successful. There was a lot of work and a lot of hard planning that went into the building program and of course that's just ongoing. I'm not sure Certainly Dr Young will not have the luxury of resting on. We've built all that we have to build. I mean he's already thinking okay, well, after we build this elementary school, there will have to be another elementary school built as well. So I think the building program is certainly something I'm very proud of.

Speaker 3:

And then you know, we talked about COVID and we talked about the pandemic and we made some really good decisions during that time and I'm very proud of the work that we did as a district to get to where we needed to be with that. So those are probably some of my proudest moments with that. So those are probably some of my proudest moments Right now. I think the move that we made towards professional learning communities, I think, will potentially have the biggest impact on student achievement of anything that I've done as a principal or as a superintendent. Our learning team at the district office has just done a phenomenal job of implementing that process step by step with our schools and I think that is going to show dividends for years and years to come.

Speaker 2:

Very good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that sounds good. And you're going to be dividends for years and years to come. Very good, yeah, that sounds good. And you're going to be moving down to Charleston yes, that area, so heading down to the shore to retire nicely down there.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely, we are. My wife and I are moving down there and of course you said I had a son who's graduating high school.

Speaker 3:

He's not exactly sure where he's going to school. Who's graduating high school? He's. He's not exactly sure where he's going to school clemson carolina. He's not sure. He might be moving with us, he might not, we don't. We don't know yet, but we're looking forward to it. Um, we've lived in the middle part of the state my entire um pre-work life. We lived in the upper state my entire work life, and so now we're going to try the beach a little bit and see how we like it.

Speaker 1:

So can't miss in that area.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's for sure, that's right, that's where we got married where I got married, very good we like to eat too, and there's plenty of gosh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it keeps getting better all the time for sure all right, we're going to take a quick time out here. Come back with dr seth young and, of course, more with Robbie Binnicker as well. You're listening to the Boone Show on MyPulse Radio.

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Speaker 1:

Back on the Boone Show on MyPulse Radio with the outgoing and incoming superintendents of Anderson School District 1, robbie Bittiger and Dr Seth Young, and it's Dr Young's turn, as Holly will be grilling him now. But, dr Young, it's good to have you back on the program and let's talk about the whole process of hiring here Now. First of all, you used to be a math teacher, right, correct? That's where you got your start in the classroom. See, I'm going to use your story as inspiration. Now to my daughter, who teaches math at Liberty High School. In fact, she wants to move into District 1.

Speaker 2:

Well, every administrator has to be a teacher somewhere along that process.

Speaker 1:

But I mean I can tell her, hey, look, look at this guy, that's right, he was a math teacher. Just like you and now look, he's the superintendent.

Speaker 4:

Somehow Mr Binnicker hiring that math teacher 20 years ago was not his proudest moment. I don't understand.

Speaker 2:

That didn't happen.

Speaker 3:

You know it was next on the list.

Speaker 5:

Next on the list.

Speaker 1:

But take us on that journey a little bit, how you go from a math teacher just on up the line in the top of the administration here.

Speaker 4:

So I was a math teacher and I did student council. I coached basketball. I coached JV basketball at Wren High School and at that time Anderson had a partnership with Clemson where you could get your master's in administration and Mr Benneker was actually the principal at that time and he and the assistant principal encouraged me to be a part of that program. So I got my master's in administration from Clemson, then eventually became an assistant principal at Wren Middle School for a year, then came back to Wren High School as an assistant principal where I had some great opportunities there. Then I became the director of the Freshman for five years, working with ninth graders, and became the principal at Rent High School for five years.

Speaker 4:

Holly talked a lot about the whole child and a lot of the different things that she was bragging on Anderson 1 for and I got to say as an assistant principal and principal, the Career Center plays a huge part in what she was talking about, where programs like this and other programs that the Career Center has just allow students to find their niche where they can just thrive, and I think that that's a huge part of that 94% graduation rate that Anderson 1 has is just kids are able to find their place to be successful, and she and I have talked about a lot of kids over the years that their teachers down here oftentimes can put their arm around their shoulder and really motivate them to do well, and then we help them get their gen ed credits, if you will, and then we're working together to get them across that stage.

Speaker 4:

So it's a big part of it. But a couple years ago started, you know, thinking about maybe pursuing some opportunities at the district level. This past year I've been the director of student services and Anderson one and and working closely with the district leadership here, gotten to, gotten to work alongside the, the board that mr Ben Benneker mentioned. In January I was named the next superintendent, so jumping in to the deep end, I guess.

Speaker 1:

That was a quick turnaround, mr Binnicker. It's like we just heard you're retiring and boom he's in. So you kind of. Of course, you guys have gotten to work together for a lot of years, both at the high school and at the district office. How much did that play into it, mr Minninger?

Speaker 3:

Well, Dr Young was really an obvious choice for this. I mean, he's been a phenomenal employee. Regardless of whether he's been a teacher, assistant, principal, principal. Everything he's ever done he's done with great finesse and been fantastic at it. So this was really not a hard decision for the board. Our board expects for the current superintendent to be working on the next superintendent. They expect that, and Dr Young was clearly the obvious choice for this position.

Speaker 2:

So, seth, your biggest challenge you think coming up in the next couple of years. I mean, you've got the academics down, you're a math teacher, you've got the whole student, you've got that. I know you've got limited experience at the district office and it's coming. What do you think some of your biggest challenges are going to be?

Speaker 4:

Well, the first biggest challenge is not to screw it up, because I think you heard all the great statistics and things going on. So that's the first thing. Don't mess up the great thing that we have going. But we've got some budget issues with some of the funding issues that Anderson One has always faced. But it's a unique time with school funding, public school funding, right now. Over the last few years since the pandemic we've had some support from the federal government with ESSER funds that on June 30th those funds are gone.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 4:

We've, as Mr Binnicker talked about, we're about to build a new school, so we're having to allocate some of our resources to that, but really trying to make sure we manage all of our financial resources as effectively as possible so that we can continue to hire the best teachers possible. That's the most important person in Anderson 1 is the classroom teacher and we need to make sure that we're doing that. The other thing is continuing to build relationships with other district leaders and just getting to know people. You know, I spent most of my career in the Wren community so I've been very familiar with folks in that community. But Mr Benneker has really helped me facilitate getting to know some other folks, be it state policymakers, local policymakers, other superintendents, other folks that are really influential in the community, getting to spend time with them and just kind of building those relationships so that we can just continue to build on the great things that have been in place.

Speaker 2:

And you know when you talk about school finances you know traditionally Anderson One has been, you know, in the top five ten in academics and all of those wonderful things. But you've also been in the lower part of receiving those funds.

Speaker 2:

Yes so you've had to make strategic plans in the low amount of funding that you get so realistically. If you were a parent or just a citizen in our community to know what the per pupil cost of a student in Anderson 1 that you all receive compared to somebody in another county you're just so much lower yeah.

Speaker 4:

Mr Benneker could probably give you the exact number, but I mean, if you looked at just the funding per student in Anderson 1 compared to some of our neighbors in Anderson County, you're looking at tens of millions of dollars difference in how some of our neighbors are funded compared to Anderson one and that makes a big difference Sure does.

Speaker 4:

We we really have to be smart. We have a very small district office staff. Our schools, the administrative staff at our schools is oftentimes smaller compared to some of the schools of similar size and districts around us, because we are trying to push as much of our financial resources towards teachers and that's going to continue to be a priority. We don't have a lot of extra stuff, which is why the move to professional learning communities has been so important, because it allows teachers to work together. They work together and make curriculum decisions. They work together to make assessment decisions. They work together to make instructional decisions. Because we don't have a lot of programs, because we simply don't have the resources to pay for it. But we have great teachers who can develop their own programs and their own assessments to make sure that students are getting the best possible outcome.

Speaker 2:

That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1:

Why is it coming from? The guy on the outside here again, excuse me. Why is it coming from the? Uh, the guy on the outside here again, excuse me. Um, why is it that it's so low funded? Is it a demographic issue? I mean what? What's the reason? Because I'm I live in a coney county now and I know they get way more per student than anderson one does. I'm just wondering how does that? How's that work? We could. How much time I see you all side-eyeing it.

Speaker 4:

There were some policy decisions made at the state level, I'd say 16, 17 years ago. Act 388 really impacted Anderson 1 because Anderson 1 is pretty much a bedroom community for Greenville, so the majority of the property in Anderson 1 is residential. Act 388 limited the ability to raise revenue from residential property, whereas you mentioned Oconee County. Oconee County has Duke Power, so Act 388 allows Oconee County to raise revenue through property taxes through Duke Power and some of the other big industrial properties in that school district, whereas in Anderson 1 we don't have a lot of the big industrial commercial properties that some of the other districts around us have, so that that really limits our ability to raise revenue to help fund the different things we have in our district.

Speaker 2:

And to topple on Act 388, we were told that during this process, when it was coming out that the funding would not go down, In fact that it would increase. But I'm sure and I don't know about y'all, but I know I've kept up with how much just the Career Center has lost with Act 388 and its millions of dollars. I cannot imagine how much Anderson One individually has lost over the years.

Speaker 4:

It's staggering when you start to look at that, especially compared to some of our neighbors.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Yeah, because in the things again that I've looked around at, I've seen that, dr Young, one of the biggest challenges you say moving forward is finding funding, and Mr Binniker has been good at that, worked his way through the whole bond thing and the penny tax and all that stuff, and it's like where do you go next? You can't just do that stuff every year. There's got to be new ways and I know that you got turned down on some other ones that you know with the growth there should become more support and I think you know again, I'm not the politician, I'm not the administrator here, but you would think that that would mean that there would be more support with more people moving in. But you know I don't make those decisions, but that is going to be a big challenge. So, other than that, dr Young and the academics, as you mentioned, anything else that you think moving forward, that you can put your stamp on what you're doing?

Speaker 4:

I think a lot of public school districts are going to make sure they need to celebrate the positive things that are going on and make sure we tell our story. There's a lot of rhetoric at times that surrounds different public schools, public school districts, and we have to make sure that we continue to celebrate the great things that our students are doing, the great things our teachers are accomplishing, and make sure we control the narrative around the positive situation we have in Anderson 1.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, that's good. A lot of those stories don't get told and I know, and we talked about with our new communications person that a lot more of those stories are being told which is great. All right, sorry again for my voice. Let's go. Did you hang up on Zach?

Speaker 2:

I haven't done this in forever.

Speaker 1:

Push the line there, does it say on air there, holly it does, it says on air. Hey, zach, are you there? Oh, he just hung up, See, all right.

Speaker 2:

All I have to do is hit that button right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I'll tell you what. Let's take a quick commercial break and when we come back, Zach will talk about WrestleMania. Talk about shifting gears here. I can't help with WrestleMania, but I can help with baseball.

Speaker 4:

How are we not talking about March Madness? Well, that just ended last night.

Speaker 1:

We will, we will, but I will tell you this Well, we'll save it for that. We'll be back in just a minute. You're listening to the Boone Show on MyPulse Radio.

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All right, everybody. Colt Classics is coming up tonight. What genre of music is he doing tonight? Disco. Disco so right after this show there will be an hour of disco music on Cold Classics.

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Yeah, it's Mr Benninger's favorite. Love it, I think so Do you love disco Absolutely.

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I did not know that.

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Speaker 1:

All right, let's go to the phone lines. We got Zach on there. We haven't talked to Zach in forever and there's been a lot going on in the world of sports. Hi, zach.

Speaker 11:

What's going on? How are y'all doing?

Speaker 1:

Doing great. What is your daughter about, five years old? Now, it's been a while since we've talked.

Speaker 11:

I've got a four-year-old and I've got an almost seven-month-old the eighth of this month and I just celebrated seven years with my high school sweetheart yesterday.

Speaker 1:

Wow, Wow. What's Tiffany doing these days?

Speaker 11:

Absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1:

There you go.

Speaker 11:

That's the way you do it. She's doing absolutely nothing. I can say that because she's not listening.

Speaker 4:

There you go. Better hope she doesn't know that. You said that too.

Speaker 1:

Dr Young is here, and he, of course, knows your whole story, so we don't need to go through it all again. I'm just kidding, Zach.

Speaker 11:

I heard him making fun of me watching wrestling. I just said I couldn't help with the conversation. Hey, that's okay. I got made fun of by Tiffany's grandpa on Sunday because I got my little girl into it. She has to watch it just like we do. You got her into that stuff. I said yes, sir. I said look, it's a male soap opera. I can get made fun of for watching it. I don't care if Mr Boone watches it, you know it's entertaining.

Speaker 1:

I just watch it as research for your segment, Zach.

Speaker 11:

I mean, you watch Billy's baseball? Yeah, I know, that's just so.

Speaker 1:

I can torture myself, yes, so what did you think of WrestleMania?

Speaker 11:

A lot of surprises. Yeah, I mean I was telling my sister and my cousin. I said if Cody Rhodes don't finish his story this time, he just needs to go to the back of the line.

Speaker 1:

I hear you.

Speaker 11:

I was getting tired of it myself, I don't think that the bloodline it's. It's a fun time to be a fan of professional wrestling, even though it's fake, even though it's put on because you're just like I would have never thought, because when I was growing up the rock was a good guy. I never knew the Rock as a bad guy. So this whole segment has been fun because you've got CM Punk, who's back. Now You've got the Rock who's back. You've got, you know, you had Undertaker make an appearance. You had, and I mean it's the Super Bowl of wrestling. I mean every celebrity's there. You have these superstars, these legends that make appearances. You've got the Hall of Fame ceremony the night before. I like the two-day event myself. I mean I love it and don't know if you know, but they're coming to Nashville in 2027, and we're looking to go. That'd be my 10-year wedding anniversary.

Speaker 5:

There you go.

Speaker 11:

Well, I told Tiffany yesterday. I said some things are just more important than you know WrestleMania. And I mean you know so. But I told her. I said maybe we can compromise. We can go to Nashville, we can go to Pigeon Forge that whole week and then stop and then go to Nashville for WrestleMania. And I won't tell you what she said on air.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so, but for WrestleMania and.

Speaker 11:

I won't tell you what she said on air. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, they're supposed to be. It's funny the new Tennessee Titans Stadium is supposed to be where it's at and it's supposed to be the first event in the stadium before the season even kicks off. So we'll just we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's pretty cool. So what else we got going on? We got, well, well, did you watch any of the college basketball march madness?

Speaker 11:

oh, yes. Yes, I had a feeling that clinton was gonna make a run, but I didn't think clinton would make that kind of run yeah and you know, and, and I don't know if people agree with me or disagree, but brad brown now is our guy. I mean, he was proven in the tournament. I mean.

Speaker 11:

I don't know who you're going to go get. I mean, who are you going to go get? You know if you get rid of him. And I mean you know he uses the portal, something Dabo Sweeney don't do. He uses the transfer portal. He knows how to coach people. I mean PJ Hall, one of the best players that ever come through Clemson. He was just known to get fouls, you know, to foul out of games and everything. But I was excited. It was a good time to be a Clemson basketball fan.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's always nice when you have those surprise runs like that.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, well, it happens, it happens to teams every year. I mean Tiffany come in third place in our family bracket and don't know a thing about basketball. My mom won it the very first year we ever done it, and I mean my mom and sister don't know anything about basketball.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, holly knows a lot, but she finished last in the office. I did finish last, not in the women's, but in the men's.

Speaker 11:

Tiffany always I don't know these teams. I'm like you know and I tell her I said you've got to watch your 6-11 seeds, your 7-12s, the teams that's playing that's right next to each other. You've got to watch those. Those are prone for upset. Tiffany had Purdue winning it all.

Speaker 1:

She came close, so Tiffany had Purdue winning it all.

Speaker 11:

Oh, she came close. So I mean she done pretty good. I mean she does every year. She didn't do better than me. Of course. You know I finished second, she finished third.

Speaker 1:

Okay, In the family bracket. What was there? Three people.

Speaker 11:

Well, she took my last name, so and I can say all this because she's not listening. And this Clemson baseball team is unbelievable. Right now they're 28-3. They play USC upstate tonight, so hopefully we can keep it going and don't choke like the Braves do in the playoffs. Yeah, hopefully, but at least we had a ring ceremony for our Braves do in the playoffs. Yeah, you know, hopefully, but at least we had a ring ceremony for our World Series and not the National.

Speaker 1:

Well, I hope you enjoyed that, because it's nice knowing that my team doesn't have to win the division. They just, you know, can get into the playoffs and they can beat the Braves. So it's like go ahead and win the division by 20 games. Who cares, we'll see you in October.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, we'll win it by 20 games. Hey, I will say I meant to send you a picture, but you've probably already seen it. They're City Connect jerseys. Have you seen?

Speaker 1:

them.

Speaker 11:

They're pretty sick man Did you pay for them?

Speaker 1:

Do you mean sick as in good or bad?

Speaker 11:

Sick as in good man. That's the tone we have.

Speaker 1:

Okay, bad Sick as in good man, that's the tone we have, just making sure you're up with the current vernacular of the young people. I really like the hats and I will say that the uniforms have grown on me. When I first saw them I was like, ooh, what the heck is that. It's a totally different color scheme, but I kind of like it. Well, you know, like the braves, I wish the braves didn't even really do anything well, I wish they would have went with a blue yeah, instead of the white.

Speaker 11:

You know, because they've already got the white throwbacks that they wore back in hank barrett's day. I wish they would have went kind of a dark blue color, royal blue or whatever you call it. Yeah, um, I kind of wish they would have went that route instead of the white. But you know, that's why they have people making way more money than me and you put together making those decisions.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's holly money right there, oh um, but I'll, uh, I'll, uh, I'll get you a harper jersey in the City Connect, all right.

Speaker 11:

And I'll send it to you. That would be perfect to start my bonfire with. That would be perfect to start my bonfire with. So I will wear the Harper jersey if you'll wear the Ronald Acuna jersey.

Speaker 1:

Maybe we can arrange that. We'll see. It'd be nice to go to a game with you sometime, but we'll see about that.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, we'll have to.

Speaker 1:

All right, we're just about out of time here, man, you gotta wrap it up. I got two superintendents here of course.

Speaker 11:

Why should I tell them how bad of a person?

Speaker 1:

no, I'm just kidding they all know you went, where you went to school and all the things you did yeah.

Speaker 11:

Yeah, I know I've got my and somehow they let rent high school recover after you left. Well, I've got my former assistant principal on air, so I have to be good I mean he knows my, he knows my baby sister too. I mean, you know, he knows her and my middle sister, you know people will tell me zach, that's not a good thing. The principal knows you because I mean that's right.

Speaker 1:

The principal knows my name I always ask my kids if they know the principal if they do that's not good. That's not true. I knew almost everybody.

Speaker 4:

We had good relationships, you being in the band and having fun up there.

Speaker 11:

Man. I was going around telling people man, mr Young knows my name, zach dude, that ain't good. He knows your name Because when you get in trouble he knows exactly where to come. I will tell you a funny story. Mr Young may remember this, because it happened my sophomore year. I think it was my I'm trying to think no, it was my junior year. There was another Zach Howard at rim and he got in a fight one day. So I don't know if Mr Young was the upperc classman principal then, because he started out as the freshman principal, but he got in a fight.

Speaker 11:

Well, to sign on to the computer, it was your first name and then you made your own password. Well, I always had to sign in as Zach Howard 2. And so this kid gets in a fight and Tiffany's seen it this is before me and Tiffany got together, so she sees it and I go in. I'm walking into class and people's like what are you doing at class? What are you doing at school today? I'm like I'm supposed to be. You're supposed to be in OSS? No, I'm not, because the way they've done attendance was it was your annual picture, your yearbook picture, and it had, if you was there, not there late, whatever, and it had OSS beside my name in every one of my classes. So when people started saying, you know, man, zach Howard beat the crap out of that guy. Let me tell you something I was like yes, I did.

Speaker 11:

Yes, I did, yes, I did. That has always been a funny story, because even people now didn't you beat up Wesson Sparks. Yes, I did. That has always been a funny story, because even people now didn't you beat up Weston Sparks.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, that was me, that was me. Yeah, yes, that was me. All right, zach, get out of here.

Speaker 11:

Oh, I am, I am. It was good talking to you again.

Speaker 4:

Take care, Zach. Good to hear from you.

Speaker 11:

You too. Hey, keep Mr boone straight for me we'll do our best, yeah so I know that's a hard job to do. I don't try to ask miss harold to keep him straight, but she can't do it either she's tried but well, y'all take care. Man, it was good hearing from you and hopefully we'll talk next week, if you don't cancel on me again all right, I'll, uh, I'll keep you posted all right, we'll talk to you later all right, see, See you, man.

Speaker 1:

All right, as usual, we bring you a little bit of everything on the Boone Show and Zach is that little bit of everything, but we are going to finish off here. Last 10 minutes. A little lighter note with you guys. Here We'll get some of your recommendations, as we do with our show guests, guests, so be thinking about this in the back of your mind. Any kind of entertainment recommendations you have a book or something you're streaming or binging or watching on TV movie, whatever or a food recommendation We've had many that have had recipes. In fact, Mr Binniger, wasn't it chili? Or something that you said you make? What was it that we wanted Shrimp and grits.

Speaker 5:

Shrimp and grits. I knew it was something in a big pot, absolutely.

Speaker 7:

We've never had it.

Speaker 2:

I mean he kept promising us We've got a few more weeks left. He literally came in here and talked six minutes about it, but we've not heard any, and we've not seen it.

Speaker 1:

We'll see what we can do. All right, yeah, we've got it. We've got to get some of that and I got to be able to take some home because my wife loves shrimp and grits wherever she can get it. Um, so you know, something along the food lines, entertainment lines, we'll get that front because I I have a list we ought to publish this list of all the guests that we have and the recommendations for the area and book. I've read some of the books they've talked about and watched some of the series. It's really kind of cool. But first we wanted to see if we could differentiate you guys a little bit and see how alike or different you are, to kind of get an idea of where this district is going.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm sure these are important.

Speaker 1:

These are very important. This or that questions. Okay, so you know we don't have much time, so we'll run through a bunch of them very quickly and there I I worked with a psychologist to come up with questions that work. Certain things in your mind, with how you answer, will tell us a lot, okay, so just so, just so you know that. All right, first thing, playlists or podcasts. Mr Binnicker, go first. Playlist Okay.

Speaker 4:

Podcasts Uh-huh See.

Speaker 1:

We got a difference already. What podcasts do you like?

Speaker 4:

by the way. Lately I've been on a kick with Andy Stanley and Craig Rochelle and some leadership staff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they would know what they're talking about. Okay, swimming pool or beach.

Speaker 3:

Oh my, I love them both, but since I'm moving to the beach, I guess I'll have to pick beach. I'm beach for sure, all right All right, all right, fruits or vegetables. Oh, I like both of those two, but'm gonna go with fruits okay fruits for me easy all right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we all deal with students. That's a bunch of fruits every day, all right um cats or dogs, the age old question? Hey, there's no question. Dogs, thank you. Dogs, no use, for I like both of you guys. All right, um movies or TV shows Movies, okay.

Speaker 4:

I don't know how to answer that, because I would say like a TV show, but I want one with like 10. You want a series of episodes? Yes, I want to binge it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah because, it's different nowadays.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's like watching a super long movie Correct, yeah, and I kind of like that. I probably watch more series than I do movies. Now, If I see something as a movie, I'm like yeah, I'll watch that later. But if it's a series, it's like yeah.

Speaker 4:

I saw something where somebody was like you won't set aside a time to watch a three-hour movie, but you'll sit there and show for a lot longer time it's yeah, I agree with that all right um the all-important apple or or android apple, apple good, good, good I like very similar.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they are, they are similar and especially in the more important things right, like if you have an android.

Speaker 1:

My wife god bless her, she, she has an android. It's just I've only had an iPhone of mine since they came out, you know, 20 years ago or whatever. She insists on having an Android and even today she's complaining because she couldn't find her stylus. It's like he's still using a stylus on a stinking phone. I mean, come on, you're going to lose the little thing. All the time I don't lose my finger, at least hopefully not, and I use that on the whole thing, excuse me, cough time. All right, we're back um waffles or pancakes pancakes pancakes.

Speaker 4:

There's a lot of hesitation, dr young in Young in some of your answers.

Speaker 5:

Well, I think he likes probably both Okay.

Speaker 4:

It sort of also kind of depends on where from. That's a good thing.

Speaker 2:

Valid. Who's making it Valid?

Speaker 1:

Just fine, so since you said pancakes, where's the best place to get pancakes, or do you make them yourself?

Speaker 4:

Well, the first best place to get pancakes is my wife made them Good answer. Sunnyside Cafe in Clemson.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if you've ever eaten there Patrick Square. Do you like the big fluffy ones, or more of the flapjacks kind of thing?

Speaker 4:

I like fluffy ones.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I got you All right Ice or fire, fire.

Speaker 3:

Ice or fire. I'm going to go fire because I hate being cold. Okay Same.

Speaker 1:

Same, so like a bonfire would be more enjoyable than just ice. There's a lot of different ways you could look at that question. Cars or trucks.

Speaker 3:

Ooh, ooh. I have a car, but I want a truck, so should I say truck?

Speaker 5:

Until you get one, I'm the same.

Speaker 4:

I have a car but I want a truck and I've always wanted a truck, but somehow every time we go car shopping, my wife gets what she wants and I get the hand-me-downs.

Speaker 1:

Yes, same, same, same, Holly.

Speaker 2:

It does not happen in my householdbie is the one who gets the vehicles yeah, and he gets the new vehicles mine, you know. I just got one after 13 years yeah, I noticed that.

Speaker 1:

I didn't notice your car in the parking lot anymore. I'm like yeah, you finally got something new because I don't even know what you're driving nowadays. All right, coke or pepsi. Uh, coke, coke. Why do you like Coke more?

Speaker 3:

Because it is the best. It tastes delicious.

Speaker 1:

Pepsi's just kind of like too sweet maybe Pepsi tastes flat yeah okay, yeah, I see that I drink them both. But I see that All right movie date or dinner date. Ooh dinner date yes, good restaurant somewhere.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. We love it.

Speaker 4:

Movie date and a large popcorn. There you go. That's also good With free refills, nice and.

Speaker 1:

I tell you what the movie theater is around here now, with their nice recliner seats and all that, and you know you get that popcorn. You're relaxing, just like you're at home.

Speaker 2:

Put your own butter on too, Yep.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I empty that thing. Yeah, it's a little sloppy there, but all right.

Speaker 3:

Introvert or extrovert, extrovert.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I see that Extrovert Really. So they're both extroverts.

Speaker 2:

I can see that.

Speaker 1:

It's funny because we always joke around, because all of us media people here are introverts. We actually took the test during one of those professional development things.

Speaker 4:

That's the kind of professional development we do around here. My wife actually hates going in public with me at times because she says I go into mayor mode when I start shaking hands with everybody, kissing babies, doing all that kind of stuff, but it's like me, Mr Seeley and Jen.

Speaker 2:

She's the same way. She says she's an introvert.

Speaker 1:

And a lot of media people are like that. It's weird. A few more because I know we're running out of time. Sausage or bacon Bacon Okay, bacon, yeah, yeah, okay. Run or bike.

Speaker 3:

Run, run.

Speaker 1:

Oh Okay, wings or ribs, wings, wings, okay, all right, sunrise or sunset.

Speaker 3:

Sunrise.

Speaker 1:

Okay, early bird. Yes, definitely All right. Sunset.

Speaker 5:

He was nodding his head the whole time, not even close to sunrise.

Speaker 1:

All right, let's have an ode to the comic books Batman or Superman, superman, batman, okay.

Speaker 4:

All right, let's have an ode to the comic books Batman or Superman, superman, batman Okay, all right.

Speaker 1:

Rustic or modern Modern Modern, all right, all right. Music festival or art festival Music festival, all right. Probably neither, but if I had to choose music, Not much of a festival person, but that's where you do all your mayor work.

Speaker 5:

Sporting event. Yeah, okay, all right, I got you there, I got you there.

Speaker 1:

Reading or writing, reading, reading. Okay, that was another comic book thing. We'll just skip that, since we're almost done here. Hawaii or Alaska.

Speaker 3:

Well, I've been to Hawaii Beautiful, loved it. Next on my bucket list is Alaska, so I'm going to say Alaska.

Speaker 4:

That's a hard one. I would say Hawaii yeah.

Speaker 1:

Two very different places, but two very beautiful places.

Speaker 4:

They're both at the top of the bucket list, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Alaska is also on my bucket list. I've been to Hawaii too, but you see all these shows about Alaska on TV and you see where the cruises go up there and everything. It's so beautiful, so beautiful. Soft or hard tacos Soft. Really, definitely, yeah there, and everything is so beautiful, so beautiful, soft or hard tacos soft really yeah, yeah what do you do?

Speaker 3:

huh, soft, yeah, yeah, flour, flour lobster or crab crab I guess lobster okay all right and finally, sand or grass. Sand or what Grass? Oh grass.

Speaker 4:

Even though I like the beach, I'm not much of a sand all in the car kind of stuff yeah that's true. I would say the same thing grass.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so there you go. When everybody listens back on the podcast, they will know something about these guys.

Speaker 2:

And how similar they are, how similar they are.

Speaker 1:

So, as we wrap things up, recommendation Do you have a recommendation for our listening audience, mr Binnicker? Entertainment-wise or food-wise?

Speaker 3:

Yes, my wife and I just started watching this series I think it's on Peacock called Traitor. It's a oh gosh like a reality. It's like a reality TV show and it's a game that they play. Lots of twists and turns and just a very simple game. There's a group of about 20 people Some are designated traitors and some are designated faithfuls, and each one they don't know who's who and they're trying to vote each other out. So it's a neat show to watch.

Speaker 2:

So is this a movie or is this a series? It's a series, dr Young, you can watch that now. Dr Young would like it. It's a series, dr Young, you can watch that now Dr Young would like it.

Speaker 3:

It's a series and there's an American version and a British version and an. Australian version. The British version is pretty good Okay.

Speaker 1:

A lot of the ideas for American television come from. British television and a lot of them are good. All right, dr Young, what?

Speaker 4:

can you recommend to us? I'm trying to find the name of it. There was a show on Apple TV that we loved. Yeah, slow Horses.

Speaker 1:

Yes, love that show as well.

Speaker 4:

Yes, it's a British.

Speaker 1:

Gary Oldman.

Speaker 4:

Yes, british kind of spy FBI thing, that they don't call it the FBI because it's in England, it's MI5 or whatever it is.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, it's mi5 or whatever it is. But yeah, it's cool. Gary olma is just tremendous in that and it's it's about like these. They got disgraced from the top levels of the mi5 or whatever it is yeah so they have to stay in this. What do they call this slough house? Or whatever house is what they call it is where these agents all work, but they, they wind up doing these, solving these great big crimes and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 4:

It's like a conspiracy thing they uncover and it's like a hostage situation.

Speaker 1:

It's pretty cool. Yeah, did you watch the latest season? I think there's three.

Speaker 4:

We just finished season one and started season two, so it doesn't disappoint.

Speaker 1:

All the seasons are great, and it's based on a series of books, so if you like reading, you can read the spy books.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it was good, and we got interrupted by March Madness, but my wife and I literally watched it in like three days.

Speaker 1:

Oh wow, Is that good yeah it's one of those things you really want to binge. It's pretty cool, all right, so that will wrap it up with the superintendents here. Mr Robbie Binniker, thank you so much for your service. It's not like you're leaving. Leaving, we'll check in from Charleston. You know, during hurricane season We'll call you.

Speaker 4:

Now that Holly knows how to get a caller in, we'll have him call in. Yes, we can call in.

Speaker 1:

Well, we'll get Holly's daughter back on here so we can raise the level of production.

Speaker 3:

That's right. I would love that. That would be an honor to be invited back on the program.

Speaker 4:

He can be our weather correspondent. That's right, there you go. He's our Jim Cantore.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely You'll be out there in the wind and the rain.

Speaker 1:

Love it on the beach. Pleasant, yeah, because that's where it point. Pleasant is where you're living, right, so you'll be right out there mount pleasant, yeah not point pleasant but mount pleasant. So yeah, you'll be, you'll be. Hopefully you won't be in the path. Hopefully, of any hurricanes but anyway it'd be great to hear from you and thanks again for everything over the years.

Speaker 3:

Thank you.

Speaker 1:

And Dr Young. We are just getting started, sir, so I know you're excited about what's going to be going on in District 1, and you've been in it for a long time and now you're in the top seat, so looking forward to what you can do, moving forward.

Speaker 4:

Excited about the opportunity. Big shoes to fill yeah, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1:

All right, Holly, thanks for coming.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

We are working the show around Holly's schedule these days, so when she can make it we do a show. Next show will be on in a couple of weeks. We're going to do District 2.

Speaker 1:

Yes, jason Johns and Mary Bortz, that's right, Jason Johns and Mary Bortz will be here and check out the podcast version of this, which will be up by the end of the week. So tell your friends they can check it out wherever they get their podcasts. Thanks again to these great guys. We'll talk to you next time on the Boone Show on MyPulse Radio.